Wednesday, June 9, 2010

Boys and girls: Presidencies

Here’s something that’s more an interesting oddity than anything else: Pretty much every organizational presidency or presidency-equivalent (e.g., the high priests group leadership) in a ward involves the bishopric* calling the president, and then getting recommendations for counselors from the newly-called president. Those counselors are then called if the bishopric (or stake presidency, for some organizations) approves.

There is one** exception to this, though: The presidency of the young men’s organization. In that one, the bishopric selects the president and the counselors.

Interesting, and i wonder why.

* Well, in the case of a bishop the calling comes from higher, of course. Also, in some cases, such as an elders quorum presidency, the organizational president is called by the stake presidency upon recommendation by the bishop. However, the general pattern beyond that is the same, it’s just the authority issuing the calls that’s different.

** I think i’m right that this is the only one, that is—i don’t think i’m wrong, but if i am i’d like to hear it. In any event, the presidency of the young women’s organization is certainly not an exception.


Heather the Mama Duk said...

That's weird. I didn't know that.

Heather the Mama Duk said...

Daddy said it's probably because each counselor is over a particular quorum.

David B said...

I’d thought of that as a possibility, but most young women’s presidencies run like that, too, no? And the deacons and teachers quorums have their own presidencies (the priests do too, but the quorum president is the bishop).

Maybe that was the case historically, though. (The idea that deacons and teachers quorum presidencies actually have a role to play in running things is a fairly recent innovation—or re-innovation, i suppose—after all.) So maybe it’s just historical practice based on that reason and it’s been fossilized?

Heather the Mama Duk said...

According to the D&C deacons and teachers have a LOT more to do that they actually do. It seems that in the 1800s deacons weren't just 12 and 13 year old boys and teachers weren't just 14 and 15 year old boys. So, yes, it's likely that it's just tradition to have a counselor totally in charge of one of those groups. Now, other than sacrament, it seems that YM operates about the same as YW.

Young Women presidencies vary. IME they work very much like the way the RS presidency works with all three dealing with everyone, but one counselor tending more toward one thing (Beehives or (un)Enrichment for example). It's not so set, though, like it sounds like YM presidencies are. See, women are apparently spaghetti and we flow more easily than waffle-like men. Or something like that.